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	<title>Comments on: How FAIR is Attempting to Destroy US Soccer</title>
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		<title>By: Darryl Warren</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18234</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it right there on their website in the About section it says &quot;temporary moratorium on immigration&quot; and &quot;immigration timeout&quot; is all over the website as well.  I also noticed that they are against H-2A visas which is the visa many of overseas players are here in the U.S. with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it right there on their website in the About section it says &#8220;temporary moratorium on immigration&#8221; and &#8220;immigration timeout&#8221; is all over the website as well.  I also noticed that they are against H-2A visas which is the visa many of overseas players are here in the U.S. with.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18233</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sorry, but I could not find anywhere on the FAIR website where they want ZERO immigration. Is that some other groups opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry, but I could not find anywhere on the FAIR website where they want ZERO immigration. Is that some other groups opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Piggott</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18215</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Piggott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have any proof for that? I couldn&#039;t find any information on where his parents were born. I know they have some Irish blood in them though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any proof for that? I couldn&#8217;t find any information on where his parents were born. I know they have some Irish blood in them though!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18207</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed a player: Landon Donovan.

His father is Canadian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed a player: Landon Donovan.</p>
<p>His father is Canadian.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Ruiz</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18146</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Ruiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the children of immigrants are citizens but if their parents would have never been allowed to immigrate.....they would not have been born here.

Anyway, it doesn&#039;t matter what barriers people try to create. People will move onto new lands to search for opportunity. Humans have been doing it since they gained the ability to walk on two legs and set their sights on the horizon.

At this rate, no one will want to move here pretty soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the children of immigrants are citizens but if their parents would have never been allowed to immigrate&#8230;..they would not have been born here.</p>
<p>Anyway, it doesn&#8217;t matter what barriers people try to create. People will move onto new lands to search for opportunity. Humans have been doing it since they gained the ability to walk on two legs and set their sights on the horizon.</p>
<p>At this rate, no one will want to move here pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18140</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be quite honest, there is no way we can ever know the full intent of the founding fathers.  Yes, they wrote journals, and were forward thinkers; and yes, they owned slaves, and would not allow women to own land.  These are contradictions that will always cause an argument from the rest of our countries existence.  What is important is that we continue to progress and grow, and by wiping out immigration what-so-ever, that will not happen.  No &quot;free country&quot; in the world has completely closed borders, and to suggest such a thing is down right ignorant.  We need to see people for what they are, PEOPLE.  This country did not just allow immigrants to move here, WE ASKED FOR IT!  This country exists because of English, French, Spanish, and even Scandinavian presence on this land for thousands of years.  Groups like FAIR need to wake up and start seeing people as people, and not just statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be quite honest, there is no way we can ever know the full intent of the founding fathers.  Yes, they wrote journals, and were forward thinkers; and yes, they owned slaves, and would not allow women to own land.  These are contradictions that will always cause an argument from the rest of our countries existence.  What is important is that we continue to progress and grow, and by wiping out immigration what-so-ever, that will not happen.  No &#8220;free country&#8221; in the world has completely closed borders, and to suggest such a thing is down right ignorant.  We need to see people for what they are, PEOPLE.  This country did not just allow immigrants to move here, WE ASKED FOR IT!  This country exists because of English, French, Spanish, and even Scandinavian presence on this land for thousands of years.  Groups like FAIR need to wake up and start seeing people as people, and not just statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18129</link>
		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know what the Founding Fathers intended not only from what they wrote (which also includes - hello - the Constitution), but from what they didn&#039;t write and how they lived their lives. 

I support the general ideal of the society they apparently intended, as opposed to the one they were leaving. But when people in 2009 who probably aren&#039;t Constitutional scholars tell me about what the Founding Fathers were about and kind of gloss over the slavery and the misogyny, my detector goes off. 

Nearly everything they did and every way they lived tells me they were in it for the white male landowner and everybody else was less of a person. While I have always applauded their courage in forming a new country, let&#039;s please not ignore what they actually did or romanticize their intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know what the Founding Fathers intended not only from what they wrote (which also includes &#8211; hello &#8211; the Constitution), but from what they didn&#8217;t write and how they lived their lives. </p>
<p>I support the general ideal of the society they apparently intended, as opposed to the one they were leaving. But when people in 2009 who probably aren&#8217;t Constitutional scholars tell me about what the Founding Fathers were about and kind of gloss over the slavery and the misogyny, my detector goes off. </p>
<p>Nearly everything they did and every way they lived tells me they were in it for the white male landowner and everybody else was less of a person. While I have always applauded their courage in forming a new country, let&#8217;s please not ignore what they actually did or romanticize their intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Piggott</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18128</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Piggott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments guys and girls. The &quot;whet&quot; and Jose Torres errors will be fixed soon. 

According to this article, Feilhaber&#039;s parents were both born in Brazil, thus making him ineligible:
http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2007/06/15/feilhaber_going_with_the_flow/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments guys and girls. The &#8220;whet&#8221; and Jose Torres errors will be fixed soon. </p>
<p>According to this article, Feilhaber&#8217;s parents were both born in Brazil, thus making him ineligible:<br />
<a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2007/06/15/feilhaber_going_with_the_flow/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2007/06/15/feilhaber_going_with_the_flow/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Warren</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18126</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KT

We know what kind of society they wanted to create because we can read their journals and diaries.  What we know is that the founding fathers were of different minds of what it mean&#039;t to be an American.  Similar to the debate today.  It&#039;s not surprising that Soccer which reflects the diversity of America would finnd itself suffering from those who have a much narrow view.

Remember that some Founding Fathers were againsnt slavery.  Nathan Hale for instance.  Others supported it and others were against it for very narrow reasons.  

&quot;give us your poor, your tired . . .&quot;

I agree with you that &quot;this is who we are&quot;.  It is the clearest statement on Soccer!  thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KT</p>
<p>We know what kind of society they wanted to create because we can read their journals and diaries.  What we know is that the founding fathers were of different minds of what it mean&#8217;t to be an American.  Similar to the debate today.  It&#8217;s not surprising that Soccer which reflects the diversity of America would finnd itself suffering from those who have a much narrow view.</p>
<p>Remember that some Founding Fathers were againsnt slavery.  Nathan Hale for instance.  Others supported it and others were against it for very narrow reasons.  </p>
<p>&#8220;give us your poor, your tired . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you that &#8220;this is who we are&#8221;.  It is the clearest statement on Soccer!  thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Ward</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18125</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bjavan,

Looking at proposed legislation Stephen is right.  Take a look at &quot;birthright citizenship&quot; laws that have been advocated over several years by the Federation for American Immigration Reform and those who choose to represent their views in Congress.  Stephen is quite accurate in his statement. The growing attack on the 14th Amendment is actually quite frightening and a component of these anti-immigrant groups.

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/index.php?content=p091609</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bjavan,</p>
<p>Looking at proposed legislation Stephen is right.  Take a look at &#8220;birthright citizenship&#8221; laws that have been advocated over several years by the Federation for American Immigration Reform and those who choose to represent their views in Congress.  Stephen is quite accurate in his statement. The growing attack on the 14th Amendment is actually quite frightening and a component of these anti-immigrant groups.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/index.php?content=p091609" rel="nofollow">http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/index.php?content=p091609</a></p>
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		<title>By: loly</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18121</link>
		<dc:creator>loly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose Torres was born in texas, not Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose Torres was born in texas, not Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: bjavan</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18120</link>
		<dc:creator>bjavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting commentary - but get the facts straight - no immigration act could ban the children of American parents born abroad from citizenship - that means Jones and Feilhaber from your list.  torres was born in Texas - to proud Mexican immigrants.  His brother has tried out for the U-20 team.  

Good piece but skewing facts undermines the argument and leaves it open to criticism - tighten up my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting commentary &#8211; but get the facts straight &#8211; no immigration act could ban the children of American parents born abroad from citizenship &#8211; that means Jones and Feilhaber from your list.  torres was born in Texas &#8211; to proud Mexican immigrants.  His brother has tried out for the U-20 team.  </p>
<p>Good piece but skewing facts undermines the argument and leaves it open to criticism &#8211; tighten up my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18115</link>
		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An appetite is &quot;whet,&quot; not &quot;wet.&quot;

And how do we know what kind of country the Founding Fathers intended to create in terms of immigration? Just because THEY were immigrants doesn&#039;t necessarily mean they envisioned a country full of people from all over the world. 

We&#039;re still struggling, 200+ years later, to figure out what their intent was with respect to &quot;a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,&quot; so what makes you think that old white men who thought that only other white, landowning men should be voting and making laws (and, indeed, were the only &quot;people&quot; that mattered) would be open to the melting pot concept? 

That said, yes, immigration reform could be a hindrance to US soccer, in that our very existence as a country is due, in very large part, to immigration. This is what we are. This is who we are. Our national teams reflect that. May they always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An appetite is &#8220;whet,&#8221; not &#8220;wet.&#8221;</p>
<p>And how do we know what kind of country the Founding Fathers intended to create in terms of immigration? Just because THEY were immigrants doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean they envisioned a country full of people from all over the world. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re still struggling, 200+ years later, to figure out what their intent was with respect to &#8220;a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,&#8221; so what makes you think that old white men who thought that only other white, landowning men should be voting and making laws (and, indeed, were the only &#8220;people&#8221; that mattered) would be open to the melting pot concept? </p>
<p>That said, yes, immigration reform could be a hindrance to US soccer, in that our very existence as a country is due, in very large part, to immigration. This is what we are. This is who we are. Our national teams reflect that. May they always.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>/2009/09/17/how-fair-is-attempting-to-destroy-us-soccer/#comment-18114</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points. Most importantly is to acknowledge that our National Team is representative of our national identity: diverse, talented, motivated, and all-American. These players represent an ideal version of what we are aiming for in this country mainly all races, colors, and creeds working together to lift America up in the world (on the soccer stage or otherwise).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points. Most importantly is to acknowledge that our National Team is representative of our national identity: diverse, talented, motivated, and all-American. These players represent an ideal version of what we are aiming for in this country mainly all races, colors, and creeds working together to lift America up in the world (on the soccer stage or otherwise).</p>
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